Krienke, Vivian Dorothea ¹⁰⁵

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Vivian Dorothea Krienke (F)
b. 20 November 1912, d. 23 September 1962

Vivian Dorothea Krienke was born on 20 November 1912, at Webb, Sask.. She was the daughter of Edward Arthur Krienke <p7.htm> and Emma Augusta Sprenger <p7.htm>.
Vivian Dorothea Krienke married Jack Langstaff, son of Allan John Langstaff <p5.htm> and Mary Anne Johnston <p6.htm>, on 1 July 1939, at, Rainy River, ; Henry and Beatrice Krienke were the best man and brides-maid for the wedding.
Adolph Gunderson, who disliked Dad, claims that Dorothy and Dad were having an affair before kathern died. When he told this he was drunk at the time.
Freeman says he knew nothing of this affair.
Gertie Gunderson claims Kathern was in bad health for a number of years, possibly TB.

There was another attempt to get Dorothy to marry Adolph Scheirer. It happened on crowe Ave. in FF, and Emma, Karl (who), Eleanora Sprenger geb Kitsch were all there with a minister and when Mom found what was being attempted she left. But she certainly was seeing Adolph as pictures show.
As of 1 July 1939,her married name was Langstaff.¹

Vivian Dorothea Krienke Talked to Panetta concerning Mom's attempt at the dramatic. She for some reason tore off most of her clothes ran out of the house and jumped into the big snow banks beside our wallk. The time of year was January to March with lots of snow on the ground and quite cold.
Panettta claims Pat and Ken were there as well and also Colleen. Colleen apparently refused to admit to the incident and Panetta seems to think after I had gone for Lorraine and Pat and Ken had Mom in bed Colleen was sitting in our Lazyboy huddled and sobbing. Possibly she had started the incident since I know she gave Mom a lot of grief (I know Colleen caused a lot of trouble but I can not remember any specific instances, just a knowlege). Gertie Gunderson also added that Aunt Flo (Dad's brother Albert's wife) used to say to Colleen that she was her mother and Mom (Dorothea) was not to be obeyed.
Spending time in the car (July 2005) with Colleen, I got the distinct feeling that she resented Mom a lot and was very bitter concerning her childhood. This was confirmed by talks with Panetta.
Seems Colleen thought Mom should have done more to preserve her mother(Kathern) memory. Mom never met Kathern as she was dead two years before Mom married Dad. Between 1953 and 1956, at, .² She was The following ware letters from the Mayo Clinic concerning Dorothea's illness.
No letterhead paper used, but return address on envelope read:
MAYO CLINIC
200 First Street SW
Rochester, Minnesota 55905

December 1, 1954
1-955-544
Dr. J. H. Lindsay, Manitoba Clinic, 128 Medical Arts Bldg., Kennedy St., Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA

Dear Doctor Lindsay:

I am pleased to send you a summary of our findings in the case of Mrs. Jack Langstaff of Rainy River, Ontario,

She was first seen at the Clinic in December, 1953 at which time she gave a history of recurrent episodes of substernal pain which had begun in April, 1952. The genera1 examination was essentially normal except for marked obesity and a fibrous uterus with polypoid endocervicitis.

Laboratory data including blood counts, routine flocculation test for syphilis, urinalysis, sedimentation rate, an x-ray of the chest and an electrocardiogram, were all negative or within normal limits. The blood sugar was 100 mg. per 100 cc. of blood. The plasma cholesterol was 254 mg. A Papanicolaou smear of the vagina secretions was negative.

On the basis of the patient s history and despite the fact that she was a young female without hypertension or diabetes, a diagnosis of coronary insufficiency was suspected. She returned to the Clinic in July, 1954 at which time she complained of a marked sensitivity of the anterior neck, diffuse aching of the anterior chest, pain and limitation on motion of the shoulders and a sense of obstruction on swa1bowing. She also complained bitterly of tenderness of both breasts. The patient at this had reduced her weight from 208 to 170 pounds and it was quite obvious that she was depressed. The remainder of the examination was essentially normal except for dental caries and evidence of peri\emdash arthritis of both shoulders.

The patient s history of chest pain was again reviewed and an exercise test was done which was normal. She was instructed in the department of physical medicine regarding the proper exercises for her peri-arthritis and she was seen in the department of psychiatry. The psychiatrist considered the patient s illness related to the untimely death of her brother and to her rather rigid dieting. It was noted that the patient, in childhood, had been severely traumatized by a cruel, domineering father but she was the only sibling who had been treated in this manner. The psychiatrist recommended that any further dieting should be done with great caution and he recommended the use of thorazine, 10 mg, three times a day in an attempt to alleviate some of her tension.

Dr. J. H. Lindsay - PAGE 2 - December 1, 1954

I did not feel, on further review of the problem of her chest pain, that a diagnosis of coronary insufficiency could be established. Final diagnoses were made of neurotic depression, pert-arthritis of both shoulders and obesity.

I trust this information will, be of interest and help to you.

Very truly yours,

ROB:MB R. O. Brandenburg, M. D.

The second letter

METABOLISM THERAPY (This was typed in separately on the top of the page.)
attention dietitian: This patient who is in urgent need of dietary instruction unfortunately would not remain for this instruction, I wonder if you would send her an instruction sheet for a 1000 calorie reduction diet? Robert Brandenburg



December 11, 1953
Doctor Malloy, Rainy River, Ontario, CANADA

Dear Doctor Malloy:

Mrs. Jack Langstaff recently completed an examination at this Clinic and requested that a report of our findings be sent to you. Since you are familiar with her history I shall not relate it at this time.

Diagnoses were made of coronary sclerosis with angina. pectoris, marked obesity and cervicitis. Laboratory data including blood counts, routine flocculation test f or syphilis and x-rays of the chest and sinuses were negative or within normal limits. Urinalysis was negative except for a grade 1 albumin. The plasma cholesterol was 254 mg per 100 cc. of plasma. The blood sugar was 100 mg per 100 cc. of blood. A Papanicolaou smear of the vaginal secretions was negative for malignant cells. The resting electrocardiogram was normal. I am enclosing some strips for your files. The ear, nose and throat examination revealed evidence of otitis externa and reduction in the hearing in the right ear.

Gynecologic examination revealed a hypertrophic cervix with cystic degeneration and polypoid endocervicitis. The gynecologic consultant recommended that the patient have a dilatation and curettage of the uterus and surgical cautery to the cervix if there were no medical contraindications. I felt that in view of the patient s anginal syndrome which is rather severe at present that this should be deferred at this time.

Mrs. Langstaff was impressed with the need for marked reduction in her weight. I advised her to continue the use of nitroglycerin and alcohol when necessary for relief and gave her a prescription for peritrate, 10 mg to be taken four times daily.

I trust this information will prove of value to you.

Very truly yours,

ROB:MB R. O. Brandenburg, M. D.

THERE WERE THE FOLLOWING SPECIAL EXAMINATIONS AND CONSULTATIONS:

X-ray reports: 12/8/53-Sinuses-negative sinuses. Jackson;
12/9/53-Chest-negative chest. Davis;
7/27/54 Left shoulder negative left shoulder. AJB;
7/27/54 Chest negative chest. Flaherty.

Electrocardiogram: 12/8/54 Rate 75 Sinus Rhythm; V-1: Diphasic T;
V-2: Positive T; V-3: Positive T; V-4:
Positive T; V-5: Positive T, small Q;
V-6:Positive T.

Miscellaneous- 12/8/53-Cytology-Cervical smear-neg. 'DCD


Basal Metabolism
Date Wgt. SBP DBP Pulse R.Q. BMR Remarks
7/27/54 172 112 68 69 0178 -9 S on 1 December 1954 at Mayo Clinic, , .² She was Breast reduction on 22 August 1962 at Dr. Challis, , .³
Vivian Dorothea Krienke died on 23 September 1962, at her home, 101 River Ave., , Rainy River, ,, It was a Sunday morning and they got up late, but Mom said to Panetta that she was not feeling too great and she thought she would lie back in for a rest while Panetta prepared breakfast. At this point she just laid down and died.
As she had suffered for many years with what was thought to be heart problems.

Obituary: MRS. JACK LANGSTAFF
Mrs. Jack Langstaff of Rainy River, the former Dorothea Krienke of Fort Frances, passed away unexpectedly at her home on Sunday morning, September 23. She was 49 years of age.
Born on November 20, 1912, in Saskatchewan, Mrs. Langstaff was a Rainy River district resident for 32 years. She moved to Rainy River following her marriage in 1939. Her husband, a Canadian National Railways engineer, died in September, 1960.
Surviving are one son, Jack Jr. of Kingston, Ont., a daughter, Panetta, at home, two stepsons, Ken of Fort William and Pat of Winnipeg and two stepdaughters, Lorraine of Rainy River and Colleen of Sommerset, Man.
Mrs. Emma Krienke, mother of the deceased, and one brother, Freeman Krienke, reside in Fort Frances and there are also 11 grandchildren surviving.
Funeral services were held at 2 p.m. (CST) Tuesday, September 25, in the Anglican Church at Rainy River. Interment was in Forest Lawn Cemetery, Rainy River.⁴ She was Fact 1 in 1977; Mother's name was probably chosen as it was very common in the Posen area in the late 1700's and early 1800's. This is because of Sophia Dorothea of Celle (b. Set. 13, 1666, died in 1726): Wife of Georg Ludwig, Elector of Hanover (became George I of England). She bore him two children, George II of England and Sophia Dorothea (wife of Fredrick William I of Prussia). It was under Fredrick William the I and II that Prussia settled the part of Poland where Dorothea's family originated. The Older Sophia Dorothea was accused by George I with adultry in 1694, and he not only divorced her but put her in prison for the rest of her life (32 years). Later, when he moved to England he did so with no wife but two mistresses. This started his unpopular rule of England.

Ken tells of the time that Dad married Dorothea and they had him, Pat and Lorraine at home. Colleen was been staying at Aunt Flo's (I guess she thought Dad and Lorraine of incapable of handling a very young (about 2 years old) child), and Dorothea waltzed in and took Colleen and brought her home. Dorothea figured that the entire family should be together and that was that. Aunt Flo and Dorothea did not talk to each other for many years after.

The above story confirms what I (Jack) knew of mother. When she wanted something nothing could stop her. Like the year Jacky was going to turn 6 and she thought he should go to school. Mrs Hislop the grade 1 teacher said he had to be 6, not just about to be six (NOV). This did not stop Mom, she sat him down in the seat and said "STAY". He stayed as he was more afraid of her than the teacher. I guess Mrs. Hislop was afraid too, since he stayed and that year was the start of his 23 years of education.

Mom was a big woman, but in 1953 was only 4' 11.5" tall and I guess that made her seem so heavy. But that did not mean she was slow. I still remember being caught near Sirman's playing on the ice in the spring. I was told never to do this, but!!! , that day Mom snuck up on me and had the leather strap with her, she yelled and I ran for home with Mom on my tail, every step of the way she was able to keep up as well as to swing and give my a lash on the backside with that old strap. I even tried to beat her by jumping the ditch, all to no avail. She still had enough breath left after we got in the house to give me a pretty good licking before she sent me to bed. I must say that it was all deserved on my part as playing on the ice in the spring as the river goes out is extremely dangerous and kids have drown while doing it.

When Mom became sick is not really clear in my mind. I just know that I did a lot of house work as a kid. The work was not so bad it was the fact that she stood over you the whole time and never gave you a moments peace. What was really embarrassing was to have to hang out the wash on the line. This was so because of my sister's and Mom's underthings. Mom's especially were huge and I was always afraid some kid would see me and tease me forever.

Gramma's Bible.
This story comes from Betty Krienke, so I guess it is true. Apparently, Dorothy was working as a cook in Emo and Gramma and Freeman were living in Fort Frances. This was in the 1930's when money wasextremely tight. Gramma complained to Dorothy that Freeman needed shoes. Dorothy accordingly sent Gramma some money for the shoes. However, Gramma with her penchant for religion, that seemed to grow after Eddie (the old man) left her, used the money instead to buy a bible. Betty sent me the bible in Sep. of 1999, and I still have it.

Gramma at one time or another I guess fell out over religion with almost everyone she knew.

I remember the time when she was living alone in her "cracker box' on 2nd St. and Freeman could not find her for about a week or ten days. When he finaly got in touch with her it seems she had taken a bus trip to Arizona to hear Oral Roberts speak (Oral Roberts was the man who later barricaded himself in a tower until people sent him so much money, I forget the exact amount, but it was a lot. His stay was less than a week. There are lots of Grammas in the world. A trip of that length for an old woman was really something.

The following ware letters from the Mayo Clinic concerning Dorothea's illness.
No letterhead paper used, but return address on envelope read:
MAYO CLINIC
200 First Street SW
Rochester, Minnesota 55905

December 1, 1954
1-955-544
Dr. J. H. Lindsay, Manitoba Clinic, 128 Medical Arts Bldg., Kennedy St., Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA

Dear Doctor Lindsay:

I am pleased to send you a summary of our findings in the case of Mrs. Jack Langstaff of Rainy River, Ontario,

She was first seen at the Clinic in December, 1953 at which time she gave a history of recurrent episodes of substernal pain which had begun in April, 1952. The genera1 examination was essentially normal except for marked obesity and a fibrous uterus with polypoid endocervicitis.

Laboratory data including blood counts, routine flocculation test for syphilis, urinalysis, sedimentation rate, an x-ray of the chest and an electrocardiogram, were all negative or within normal limits. The blood sugar was 100 mg. per 100 cc. of blood. The plasma cholesterol was 254 mg. A Papanicolaou smear of the vagina secretions was negative.

On the basis of the patient s history and despite the fact that she was a young female without hypertension or diabetes, a diagnosis of coronary insufficiency was suspected. She returned to the Clinic in July, 1954 at which time she complained of a marked sensitivity of the anterior neck, diffuse aching of the anterior chest, pain and limitation on motion of the shoulders and a sense of obstruction on swa1bowing. She also complained bitterly of tenderness of both breasts. The patient at this had reduced her weight from 208 to 170 pounds and it was quite obvious that she was depressed. The remainder of the examination was essentially normal except for dental caries and evidence of peri\emdash arthritis of both shoulders.

The patient s history of chest pain was again reviewed and an exercise test was done which was normal. She was instructed in the department of physical medicine regarding the proper exercises for her peri-arthritis and she was seen in the department of psychiatry. The psychiatrist considered the patient s illness related to the untimely death of her brother and to her rather rigid dieting. It was noted that the patient, in childhood, had been severely traumatized by a cruel, domineering father but she was the only sibling who had been treated in this manner. The psychiatrist recommended that any further dieting should be done with great caution and he recommended the use of thorazine, 10 mg, three times a day in an attempt to alleviate some of her tension.

Dr. J. H. Lindsay - PAGE 2 - December 1, 1954

I did not feel, on further review of the problem of her chest pain, that a diagnosis of coronary insufficiency could be established. Final diagnoses were made of neurotic depression, pert-arthritis of both shoulders and obesity.

I trust this information will, be of interest and help to you.

Very truly yours,

ROB:MB R. O. Brandenburg, M. D.

The second letter

METABOLISM THERAPY (This was typed in separately on the top of the page.)
attention dietitian: This patient who is in urgent need of dietary instruction unfortunately would not remain for this instruction, I wonder if you would send her an instruction sheet for a 1000 calorie reduction diet? Robert Brandenburg


December 11, 1953
Doctor Malloy, Rainy River, Ontario, CANADA

Dear Doctor Malloy:

Mrs. Jack Langstaff recently completed an examination at this Clinic and requested that a report of our findings be sent to you. Since you are familiar with her history I shall not relate it at this time.

Diagnoses were made of coronary sclerosis with angina. pectoris, marked obesity and cervicitis. Laboratory data including blood counts, routine flocculation test f or syphilis and x-rays of the chest and sinuses were negative or within normal limits. Urinalysis was negative except for a grade 1 albumin. The plasma cholesterol was 254 mg per 100 cc. of plasma. The blood sugar was 100 mg per 100 cc. of blood. A Papanicolaou smear of the vaginal secretions was negative for malignant cells. The resting electrocardiogram was normal. I am enclosing some strips for your files. The ear, nose and throat examination revealed evidence of otitis externa and reduction in the hearing in the right ear.

Gynecologic examination revealed a hypertrophic cervix with cystic degeneration and polypoid endocervicitis. The gynecologic consultant recommended that the patient have a dilatation and curettage of the uterus and surgical cautery to the cervix if there were no medical contraindications. I felt that in view of the patient s anginal syndrome which is rather severe at present that this should be deferred at this time.

Mrs. Langstaff was impressed with the need for marked reduction in her weight. I advised her to continue the use of nitroglycerin and alcohol when necessary for relief and gave her a prescription for peritrate, 10 mg to be taken four times daily.

I trust this information will prove of value to you.

Very truly your s,

ROB:MB R. O. Brandenburg, M. D.

THERE WERE THE FOLLOWING SPECIAL EXAMINATIONS AND CONSULTATIONS:

X-ray reports: 12/8/53-Sinuses-negative sinuses. Jackson;
12/9/53-Chest-negative chest. Davis;
7/27/54 Left shoulder negative left shoulder. AJB;
7/27/54 Chest negative chest. Flaherty.

Electrocardiogram: 12/8/54 Rate 75 Sinus Rhythm; V-1: Diphasic T;
V-2: Positive T; V-3: Positive T; V-4:
Positive T; V-5: Positive T, small Q;
V-6:Positive T.

Miscellaneous- 12/8/53-Cytology-Cervical smear-neg. 'DCD


Basal Metabolism
Date Wgt. SBP DBP Pulse R.Q. BMR Remarks
7/27/54 172 112 68 69 0178 -9 S.²

Children of Vivian Dorothea Krienke and Jack Langstaff <p4.htm>
Edward Jack Langstaff <p1.htm>+ (living)
Panetta Dorothea Ruth Langstaff <p4.htm>+ (living)
¹⁰⁵

Vivian married Jack Langstaff jul1 1939 in Rainy River District, Ontario, Canada.¹⁰⁴ (Jack Langstaff was born April 14, 1901,¹⁰⁴ died September 14, 1960 in Budreau's Camp, Lake of the Woods, Rainy River District, Ontario, Canada ¹⁰⁴ and was buried September 17, 1960 in Fort Frances, Ontario, Canada - Forest Lawn Cemetery ¹⁰⁴.)